{"id":24115,"date":"2026-02-16T15:35:08","date_gmt":"2026-02-16T14:35:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/karmel.hr\/?p=24115"},"modified":"2026-03-06T23:04:12","modified_gmt":"2026-03-06T22:04:12","slug":"susret-karmelskih-odgojitelja-europe-u-avili","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/karmel.hr\/?p=24115","title":{"rendered":"Susret karmelskih odgojitelja Europe u Avili"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">U organizaciji Europske konferencije karmelskih provincijala (CEP) od \u00a09. do 13. velja\u010de 2026. u Me\u0111unarodnome centru sv. Terezije i sv. Ivana od Kri\u017ea (<em>El Centro Internacional Teresiano Sanjuanista<\/em>\u00a0\u2013 CITeS) u Avili odr\u017ean je susret karmelskih odgojitelja.<!--more-->Na susretu su sudjelovali magistri postulanata, novaka i bogoslova iz \u0160panjolske, Portugala, Italije, Me\u0111unarodnog zavoda Terezijanum iz Rima, Francuske, Engleske i Irske, Austrije, Poljske, Belgije, Egipta i Libanona, te magistar postulanata na\u0161e Hrvatske karmelske provincije. Osim odgojitelja, na susretu su bili i predsjedavaju\u0107i CEP-a, provincijal ligurske provincije o. Federico Trinchero i generalni definitor o. Roberto Maria Pirastu. Sveukupno je bilo 35 sudionika.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tema ovogodi\u0161njega susreta bila je\u00a0\u201e<em>Uvo\u0111enje u molitvu mladih u formaciji. Iskustva, pote\u0161ko\u0107e i pomagala\u201c.<\/em> Za razliku od prija\u0161njih susreta, ovoga puta nije bilo gosta predava\u010da, nego su odgojitelji iznosili iskustva u svojim provincijama. Svaki je odgojitelj imao 15 minuta da iznese iskustva u radu s bra\u0107om koja se nalaze u formaciji.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Iako je tema bila molitva, odgojitelji su govorili i o drugim temama koje su direktno ili indirektno povezane sa temom molitve. Govorilo se o razlu\u010divanju poziva, zajedni\u010dkom \u017eivotu, promicanju zvanja, upotrebi sredstava komunikacije, osobito interneta, duhovnom \u010ditanju\u2026 Nakon izlaganja pojedinog odgojitelja obi\u010dno se razvila diskusija. Posebna pozornost posve\u0107ena je pomagalima \u2013 knjigama i \u010dlancima o molitvi koji se upotrebljavaju u pojedinim govornim podru\u010djima.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kao i ranije, i na ovom susretu govorilo se o va\u017enosti odgovorne upotrebe sredstava komunikacije, osobito interneta. Iznesena su razli\u010dita iskustva i prakse koje u razli\u010ditim provincijama nisu ujedna\u010dene. Svi su se slo\u017eili da je to kompleksno pitanje, te da bi se o tome trebalo govoriti op\u0161irnije na nekom od slijede\u0107ih susreta, jer nekontrolirana upotreba sredstava komunikacije nanosi veliku \u0161tetu \u017eivotu molitve i zajedni\u010dkom \u017eivotu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Na susretu se govorilo i o promicanju zvanja. Kako se iz statistika mo\u017ee lako vidjeti, najve\u0107i dio provincija ima malo bra\u0107e u formaciji. Na\u0161a provincija ima najve\u0107i broj bra\u0107e u formaciji u cijeloj Europi, pa su sudionici izrazili \u017eelju da im se predstavi na\u010din promicanja zvanja u na\u0161oj provinciji. Nakon tog predstavljanja neki su odgojitelji pokazali interes za preno\u0161enje na\u0161ih iskustava u svoje provincije. Jedini uzrast gdje na\u0161a provincija nema najvi\u0161e odgajanika jesu aspiranti. Provincija Navarra, koja dugo godinama uop\u0107e nije ima zvanja, napravila je veliki preokret dolaskom jednog redovnika iz Kolumbije koji se potpuno posvetio promicanju zvanja i sada imaju 8 aspiranata.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Prvoga radnoga dana poslije podne i\u0161li smo u posjet sestrama karmeli\u0107ankama obli\u017enjeg Samostana Utjelovljenja. Razgledali smo crkvu i samostan, te smo imali rekreaciju sa sestrama. Drugi radni dan prije podne bio je radni, a poslije podne smo i\u0161li u Duruelo gdje smo slavili svetu misu. Nakon toga posjetili smo na\u0161e sestre karmeli\u0107anke, me\u0111u kojima se nalazi i jedna Hrvatica, s. Mirta iz Splita. Na kraju na\u0161ega posjeta Duruelu posjetili smo kapelu posve\u0107enu sv. Ivanu od Kri\u017ea na mjestu gdje je bio prvi samostan obnovljenog Karmela. Izvorna ku\u0107a vi\u0161e ne postoji, ve\u0107 je na mjestu prvotnog samostana sagra\u0111ena ta spomen kapela.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Na po\u010detku tre\u0107eg radnog dana obratio nam se na\u0161 Generalni predstojnik o. Miguel preko video veze. On se trenutno nalazi u Indiji na kanonskoj vizitaciji provincije Malabar. Govorio nam je o iskustvu molitve i o nekim temama iz pisma koje je uputio Redu prigodom predstoje\u0107ih provincijalnih kapitula. Nakon toga su dva \u010dlana komisije za aktualizaciju postoje\u0107eg\u00a0<em>Ratia Institutions<\/em> (magistar bogoslova pari\u0161ke provincije i rektor Me\u0111unarodnog zavoda Terezijanum) izvijestili o radu komisije. Tekst je pro\u0161ao razli\u010dite redakcije i o\u010dekuje se da bi u rujnu ove godine mogao biti predstavljen na Izvanrednom definitoriju. Dakle, uskoro bismo trebali dobiti kona\u010dni tekst odobren od Generalnog definitorija. Nakon toga provincije \u0107e trebati aktualizirati i uskladiti svoje vlastite programe formacije (RIP) s novim tekstom RI koji se odnosi na cijeli Red.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Zatim je predsjedavaju\u0107i Europske konferencije provincijala o. Federico Trinchero govorio o drugom novicijatu za europske provincije koji ve\u0107 nekoliko godina organizira Iberijska provincija. Jedan od voditelja drugog novicijata o. Pascual Gil naglasio je da je jako va\u017eno da bogoslovi koji sudjeluju budu prisutni od po\u010detka do kraja programa. Bogoslovi koji \u0107e sljede\u0107e godine sudjelovati u drugom novicijatu ove godine bi trebali tijekom ljeta do\u0107i na u\u010denje \u0161panjolskog jezika.<\/p>\n<p>O. Federico je iznio prijedlog na\u0161ega provincijala o. Vinka Mami\u0107a da se sljede\u0107i susret europskih bogoslova odr\u017ei u na\u0161em Samostanu sv. Ilije na Bu\u0161kom jezeru sljede\u0107e godine u drugom dijelu kolovoza. Prijedlog je prihva\u0107en.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Poslije podne toga tre\u0107eg dana bilo je rezervirano za odlazak u karmelski samostan u Segoviji. Posjetili smo tamo\u0161nju katedralu, a nakon toga je na grobu sv. Ivana od Kri\u017ea definitor o. Roberto predslavio sv. misu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Susret je zavr\u0161io u petak 13. velja\u010de Jutarnjim pohvalama i Euharistijom.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/karmel.hr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/Avila-2026-Formatori-Statistiche.xlsx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Statistika formacije u Europi<\/a><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-24115 gallery-columns-7 gallery-size-thumbnail'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/karmel.hr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/20260208_202331.jpg'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/karmel.hr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/20260208_202331-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a 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